Cleaver and Conundrums – Why I Don’t Do Women’s Retreats

Update: 6/13/08

It’s been eight months since this thread was originally posted and time for an update.  I plan to launch a series exploring “Christian femininity” (”Proverbs 31 and beyond”) in the near future.  While the meme doesn’t intend, purport or presume to be the final word – or even an exhaustive rendering of the subject – hopefully it’ll generate some additional thinking, musing, digging and growing.  “Some Total” gets us started.

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Tis the season for planning this year’s women’s retreat.  These annual events are staples on many calendars.  But not mine.  Here are some reasons why:

 In my experience, women’s retreats (as well as most “women’s ministry”) usually serve up the Christian version of lite beer: half the calories with half the taste.  They invariably focus on that infamous, overworked icon, The Proverbs 31 Woman or its kissing cousin, Created to be His Helpmeet.  The result: a bland, flavorless brew seasoned with too little (or sloppy) theology, bare-bones Bible, and a douse of June Cleaver that could choke a mule.  (Pardon the culinary metaphor.  It seemed to fit.)

 The average women’s retreat doesn’t engage my mind, which gravitates more toward academic and scholarly pursuits.  (Granted, these aren’t everyone’s cup of sunshine, but a few occasional rays would be nice.)  I’ve been told that I think more like a man than a woman.  I haven’t yet decided whether that’s a compliment or something else.  Whatever it is, it rarely puts in an appearance at the retreats I’ve attended.

 An over-emphasis on emotions.  There’s nothing wrong with emotions, but my emotions aren’t the sum total of who I am in Christ.  I crave exegetical accuracy, depth and relevance, careful research, scholarship, razor-sharp hermeneutics and the application of critical thinking and analytical skills in theology, history, science, literature, fine arts, economics, social science, and philosophy.  (Is there a place for those elephantine doses of emotional, crying jag, touchy-feely, Kleenex-clutching retreat sessions?  I suppose.  I just don’t see why we should begin and end there – or why they’re sometimes deemed the sole point of connection between women.)

  Weekend themes of “getting them grounded in the Word” and “growing in Jesus” and such.  Nothing wrong with that, but implicit in these themes is the assumption that “women of the Word” is the exclusive territory of the retreat planners who will now teach the rest of us what we’re missing.

 Retreats billed as “ya’ll come” that focus on young married women with kids.  I’m within spitting distance of age 50.  I also have an eight-year old son.  The conundrum: I’m apparently too long in the tooth to qualify as a “young married,” but haven’t sprouted enough gray hair to qualify as a Titus 2 “older woman.”  Betwixt and between.  Retreats don’t seem to know what to do with women like me.

 I understand the need to make the best use of limited time, but I find the jam-packed, frenetic pace of many retreats to be overwhelming and exhausting.  As an introvert, I need time to decompress and process between sessions.  I also don’t see the point in departing a “retreat” feeling more fatigued and depleted than I did when I arrived!

 The atmosphere at some of these shindigs – intentionally or otherwise – is a Xerox copy of a weekend-long Tupperware party.  Nothing against Tupperware per se, but frankly, I have better things to do with my time.  I also don’t want to get stuck in a cabin (again) with a bunch of slumber party retros who want to stay up all night and giggle.  When I turn in for the night I want to turn in for the night, not regress back to junior high.  Boil and bubble, toil and trouble, grump, grump, grump!)

 Logistics.  Since my husband works weekends, I have to make special arrangements for child care in order to attend a weekend event.  This doesn’t always work out.  It’s nobody’s fault – just a fact of life.

 My husband isn’t invited.  This may sound oxy-moronish as in, “Hello?  It’s a women’s retreat.  No testosterone allowed.”  However, as I said, my husband works most weekends and on the rare occasions when he gets a Saturday off, I want to spend the day with him.

 Sinking to “the lowest common denominator.”  I dislike retreats that revolve around themes such as Healing the Broken-Hearted, Restoring Your Wounded Soul, etc..  IMHO, these areas of one’s life are best kept private unless I choose otherwise.  I balk at artificial attempts to put them on public parade.

 The last time I was “invited” to a women’s retreat (2006), I gingerly accepted against my better judgment.  Mistake! The person who offered to pay my way and watch my kids for the weekend extended the invitation in such a way that I felt trapped into her plans and agenda, bereft of a gracious way to decline without igniting some Hindenburgish fall-out (long, boring story).   Whether I choose to attend a women’s retreat or not – for whatever reason – is my decision.  I don’t need to justify it to other women, nor do I need to defend my choice to those who insinuate — sometimes with the subtlety of a freight train – that if I was “as spiritual as they are,” I’d make retreat an annual event, too.  (My personal favorite was the woman who suggested I’d be “letting Satan rob you of a blessing” if I don’t attend the next retreat)  Now I just smile and say, “No thank you.”

 The “women’s ministries/retreat” paradigm that never gets beyond telling me how I can better submit, pray for my husband and children, have a quiet time, or how you, too, can be a better Suzy Homemaker, Betty Crocker and Martha Stewart.  There’s nothing wrong with any of that, but do we have to grind that gear forever?  Can we move on? These focuses represent only a small fraction of the incredibly intricate, mysterious, and glorious complexities of Christian womanhood that are rarely discussed, explored, or applied.

Lessons Learned:

1. June Cleaver and The Proverbs 31 woman are not synonymous.

2. Trying to manipulate emotions to generate a contrived “catharsis” is usually invasive and often insulting.

3. Trust my best judgment instead of someone else’s – no matter how well-intentioned.  “No” is a perfectly valid response.  Use it.

4. Bring a book.  If nothing on the retreat docket interests me, a good book will.

5. Avoid going to these events solo if at all possible.  There’s nothing like showing up at a women’s retreat alone when everyone else is “buddied up.”

6. I am no less a Christian woman because I choose not to attend women’s retreats than are those who do.  Neither my faith nor my walk with Christ is validated by doing or not doing something just because “everyone else is doing it.”

Finally, retreat planning isn’t for the fainthearted.  It’s not easy planning a retreat “menu” that will nourish a group with such diverse backgrounds, educations, interests, ages, experiences, and perspectives.  Kudos to those hardy souls who undertake this Herculean task.

So, why not spice up the standard “retreat recipe” with some “fresh ingredients”?

Instead of spooning out a warmed-over brew of Ten Steps to June Cleaverdom, How to Be a Better Wife, Mother, and Haus Frau, or Help-meeting 101, how about a more filling version that starts with a question?  (Aw heck, why not several?)  Like, “What IS a woman?”  Not what does she do, but who is she?  Where’s her heart?  What’s her design?  Why did God create Eve?  How has God revealed Himself by creating ishshah, Woman, and what can we learn from Him about How, What, Why, When, Where, and Who we are in Christ?

With a “menu” like that on a retreat calendar, I just may dive in for another bite.

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Click here for related discussions:

http://hevencense.wordpress.com/womens-ministry/nuggets-and-nudges/

http://hevencense.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/fully-souled-or-fully-sole/

Also see 20 Ways to Kill a Small Group (or women’s ministry)

7 Responses

  1. And I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I am comforted knowing I am not alone. When you plan a retreat let me know.
    Many blessings

  2. Thank God I’m not the only one who has such an aversion to women’s retreats and women’s ministry in general. Sheesh! I’m single and never have been married and don’t have kids, so a lot of the stuff discussed in women’s ministry doesn’t apply to me. Plus there aren’t many single women without kids in my church, so I may have to go somewhere else to find more friends.

  3. Apparently you have never been to one of OUR retreats! I started planning retreats about 5 years ago, never having been to one (thank God!). Had no idea what I was doing, but did it anyway. We have 2 per year: Spring Retreat and a Fall retreat which we call Faith Boot Camp. My daughter is the speaker at all of them. She has offered to bring in guest speakers, but the women want her. Last Spring a woman asked to speak to our staff, so we gathered together. She told us:”I have been to many retreats, some very expensive. I came and went and I am sure no one even knew I was there. I have never felt so welcome at any of the others, nor have I had so much fun at a retreat! I was blessed by the speaker, too! I WILL be back!” and she came back this Oct. to Faith Boot Camp. We have had many women say,”This is not like any other retreat I have ever been to! All we usually do is have services, eat, shop, and go home” My daughter and I discussed it and decided we are so glad we didn’t know what we were doing when we started planning retreats! Ha! Yes, our services are very spiritual and we worship God. But we also believe in having fun! We plan activities such as a luau, a fancy tea, we swim, horseback ride, have an obsticle course, and lots of other activities. The focus isn’t as much on you as it is on Jesus. Our next retreat is in April in Arkansas. I challenge you ladies to come! suehart47@peoplepc.com

  4. Thank you, thank you, thank you for writing this! I totally relate on so many levels and like others who commented, I am relieved to know I am not the only one who dislikes ‘women’s retreats’. I have been to plenty. When we were in full time ministry, wives/moms were ‘required’ (code for forced) to go to them. Always over emotional, always awkward, I always couldn’t wait to leave. You outlined my thoughts so well, especially the desire to talk intellectually. If my church (which I dearly love) told me there would be paintball and minimal crying, I might show up. No thanks as of now.

  5. Sue:

    Nope, I’ve never been to one of your retreats – and live quite a way from Arkansas. But it sounds like “having no idea what you’re doing” may be a definite plus. I’m into the fun thing as well as horseback riding, swimming, etc. One question: Could you work in a fencing class or two? :)

  6. Jill:

    I know what you mean about the “over emotional, always awkward” deal. Not my cup of tea either. Paintball, hike in the hills and Puccini all sound good to me!

  7. You nailed it on the head with this. I have very similar thoughts and feelings about retreats and ministries to women that are found so often in church. I’ve gone through some of the same experiences you did, so much so that I felt I could have written this post! I would much rather sit and discuss with women and men the deep theological truths and apply them to my life as a woman with gifts outside of the “norm” of happy homemaking. I want to sit at the feet of Jesus and learn of Him.

    Thank you for your expressing what I’ve felt.

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